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PostPosted: Monday, 24.Oct.2016 01:41    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I'm afraid that 32 GB of RAM on this phone is as useful as the golden plate on its back, i.e. purely a promotional gimmick. I've never experienced any low memory situations on the Z10 (2 GB ) or the Passport (3 GB ), and that on a platform where 3rd party applications do exist and the Android runtime allows full multitasking. That powerful Snapdragon 820 CPU on this device certainly is a useful feature, but 32 GB of RAM is simply unusable...

BTW. Does anyone know if this device comes with Android runtime? If so, which Android version does it support?
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PostPosted: Tuesday, 25.Oct.2016 21:59    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Michal Jerz wrote:
I'm afraid that 32 GB of RAM on this phone is as useful as the golden plate on its back, i.e. purely a promotional gimmick. I've never experienced any low memory situations on the Z10 (2 GB ) or the Passport (3 GB ), and that on a platform where 3rd party applications do exist and the Android runtime allows full multitasking. That powerful Snapdragon 820 CPU on this device certainly is a useful feature, but 32 GB of RAM is simply unusable...

BTW. Does anyone know if this device comes with Android runtime? If so, which Android version does it support?


It doesn't make any sense at all if you don't need it. Also unlike with desktops, you don't get that extra performance due to the large amount of memory can be used for page caches. I know that with Android they move all the memory they can after a while in idle to the lower banks of the RAM. This is done because you have possibility to power off those memory banks that are not in use and save power. When you do this much of the cached memory will be discarded. This is the same mechanism that is used for hot swappable memory for servers.

If you don't "compact" the physical memory you will have a phone that has a worse standby time as 32GB will consume more power than for example with 4GB. Memory doesn't consume that much power but in standby it is actually very significant as it is always on (must be refreshed).
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PostPosted: Wednesday, 26.Oct.2016 19:06    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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It doesn't make any sense at all if you don't need it.

Well, it's actually not a matter of whether you need it or not, but if there exist any ways to make use of it (or even just 10% of it).... This platform has a few hundred apps in total, and all of them very simple, made for the Jolla and its 1 GB of RAM. Android runtime (if at all it is available on this device) is also very old (Jelly Bean) and supports apps which were made when Android devices also only had 1-2 GB of RAM. Besides, it has a heap size of a few hundred MB. And just like Jolla doesn't do anything for more advanced apps to start coming out for this platform, I haven't noticed any such initiatives of Turing, either, so it's doubtful that anything is going to change in this regard anytime soon.

So there's virtually nothing that you can do to utilize even just 10% of this amount of RAM on this device. If on my Z10 (2 GB ) or the Passport (3 GB ) I can have multiple headless services running permanently in the background, launch several apps and have the web browser with 6-7 tabs opened, and there's still quite some RAM memory left, then I just can't imagine what could be done to utilize 32 GB on the Turing. In other words, I dare to say that this device would work exactly the same way with 4 GB of RAM, and the whole rest just takes space and eats some mAh's...

Of course, I understand that their intention was to make "the most advanced smartphone" which can possibly have some benefits when it comes to marketing, but I'd very much prefer that they all focus on finally enabling decent app development possibilities on this platform, of which they'd surely benefit much more than of even the most powerful hardware but lacking any decent native 3rd party apps and with Android runtime (if at all present on this phone) slowly reaching its EOL.
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PostPosted: Sunday, 04.Feb.2018 17:37    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Turing Robotic declares bankruptcy:

http://metropolitan.fi/entry/hyped-smartphone-startup-turing-declares- bankruptcy

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PostPosted: Monday, 05.Feb.2018 15:43    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Well, not that huge suprise.
Still sad to see another potential alternative to the big ones fade...
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PostPosted: Tuesday, 20.Feb.2018 21:53    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Well, they try to continue anyway. I got this newsletter:

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Dear Turing Customers and Followers,

Recent news about Turing Robotic Industries bankruptcy filing was largely distorted which has caused some confusion and concern for our customers about TRI's business operations and its ability to carry on. I'd like to take this opportunity to invite anyone to inquire about our fully audited financial report for the fiscal year 2016 and 2017 of Turing Robotic Industries Oy, our Finland subsidiary. Turing has appointed a professional legal firm and an attorney has been appointed by the local court to handle legal matters. Turing's plan in Finland is to further its R&D capability and to strengthen the relationship with its industrial design partners.

Should you have any further inquiries about our Finland plan or doubts over media reports, please contact us at press@turingri.com.

Turing Phone Orders

An update for the first-generation Turing Phone owners and customers. The engineering samples of the Turing Phone Dark Wyvern and Turing Phone Glaedr were shipped in Q3 2016, some of which never made it to you due to certification regulatory issues. Countries that have withheld the phones at Custom include Russia, India, China, Italy, just to name a few. Roughly around 12% of our total customers never received their phone. We want you to know that we are well aware of this issue and are working to provide you with either a full refund or a voucher for our next device. We have already refunded 40% of our customers who have preordered a Turing Phone. If you haven't received your refund by now we will assign a customer service rep to follow up with you to ensure that you receive a full refund with a valid claim.

Here's a direct access to the right staff handling such matters at TRI: service-now@turingri.com.

Update

TRI will make its official announcement only when its products are ready for release. Please bear with us in the interim. We'll update you on our Facebook pages with any new information regarding the availability of our upcoming products.

Lastly, I'd like to extend my greetings to those who are celebrating the Chinese New Year across the globe. We wish you the very best in the year of the Dog.

新年快乐,万事如意!


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Syl Chao
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